Gotta say, neither the photos of the city, nor the Turner Prize exhibits, nor the song Bradford Boy, nor anything else in your report made me think, 'You know, I really must go to Bradford one of these days'.
Trying to be positive about poor white Brits and their Third World colonisers living among the ruins of a once great city is like putting lipstick on a pig.
I can't help thinking we've all gone mad, yet some are still trying to put a positive gloss on the fact that we live in a ****hole with people who often hate us. You really should have taken the guide's advice and gone to Haworth.
I don’t know if I am trying to be positive or just trying to broaden the perspective beyond extreme examples online. Also, I have been to Haworth before and it is a beautiful museum but totally disconnected from the realities of global capitalism.
So you are only interested in photographing the realities of global capitalism? There are no other subjects out there worth photographing?
Do you feel positive or negative towards global capitalism? If negative, why do you bend over backwards to find good things to say about its effects on our cities and populations? Your photos scream 'ugly' yet your pen says, 'fascinating and vibrant'.
We inhabit a world turned upside down, mainly due to the Soviet-style indoctrination British schoolchildren have been subjected to starting in the 1960's when the 'March through the Institutions' started, and getting ever more unmoored from reality.
Lots of interesting things out there, but I think this is an important topic.
I feel ambivalent towards capitalism. I think we probably have to start from a position of optimism to make a positive difference. A spiral of negativity helps no one. I highly recommend David Goodhart's recent post which navigates a path through the contradictions: https://davidgoodhart.substack.com/p/do-majorities-have-rights
On your recommendation I read David Goodhart's essay and I thought it very good. I have been following him for several years so I was already familiar with his general stance.
The piece struck me as being a very long plea for damage limitation i.e now that we have foolishly invited in so many people from often incompatible cultures there are several dozen policies we ought to introduce that MIGHT attenuate some of the negative consequences to manageable levels. This will be hard and often expensive but the alternative is a balkanized Britain with various ethnic groups competing for money from the public coffers, leading to resentment over the pet projects of other groups. To avoid this balkanisation we will have to, among other things, persuade Muslims that they are more British than Muslim or Pakistani and they will need to come to terms with the fact that Christianity is the bedrock of our morals and our civilisation. Good luck with that.
I live in Leicester where white Brits are now down to about 30% of the population. The truth is, like most people, I would prefer to live among my own kind but that is no longer an option for me. You may think that 'my own kind' could include other ethnic groups and I agree. I have lived and worked abroad for most of my life and have friends from various countries. But I can tell you that my Indian neighbours have knocked bricks out of our shared garden wall and said they didn't, smashed my greenhouse window and said they didn't, said they attended my mother's funeral when they didn't, talk loudly and without end on their mobile phones in their back garden, which drains my gardening of any pleasure. White people can also be horrible but such bare-faced lying is something new to me. I suspect they want me out so that their friends can move in next door. They, like everyone else, want to be surrounded by their own kind, even though I've only ever been kind and welcoming to them when they moved in two years ago.
My sister suggested I should move out but where am I supposed to go? I, like many other Brits, have to get used to the fact that we can't live around people like ourselves and instead just hope that the number of Third Worlders in our area doesn't keep rising, and that the Hindus and Muslims stop fighting, and that Muslims stop raping white schoolgirls, and that our progressive masters finally decide that part of their remit is to protect the natives, no matter how unfashionable and low status they are.
In short, I really like David Goodhart but I like Rupert Lowe even more. While David Goodhart seems a very clever and decent bloke, I think his influence on British life approaches zero, something he would probably admit, while Rupert Lowe has a real chance of changing things in the direction I and many other people want. Lowering the numbers rathering dreaming up complicated schemes that might just make things work better is now my priority.
Quite how the Goodhart essay related to your views on global capitalism or to your photos, I can't say.
I can't remember the last time I saw a Turner prize finalist whose work I found merit in.
It is difficult to see what function it serves at this point. @Pierre d'Alancaisez ^ Verdurin had a good review of last year’s here: https://petitpoi.net/turner-prize-2024-at-tate-britain/
I wanted to see this with you, Neil! But I can see why one wouldn’t bother until the last moment.
'Questions of identitarian “struggle” are the show’s sole organising principle. They’re so old hat that even the artists approach them with ennui.'
Very good. I have considered writing about this based on a decade's worth of art industry press releases in my inbox, which show the same pattern.
Next time! I'm not sure it was worth the trip but was happy to have kept up my UK CoC record.
Great shots. I believe Bradford is also the hometown of TT Racer Dean Harrison - who has since left for the Isle of Man…
I didn't know that. Isle of Man is the place to be for TT I hear.
I only wish I could make it. It’s pretty thrilling watching it on TV, but being there would be next level.
Definitely food for thought. Thank you for taking us along for a bit of a taste of Bradford.
That was a really interesting read, thanks
As always, you look for the interesting aspects of places you visit 👍
An excellent article 👏
Gotta say, neither the photos of the city, nor the Turner Prize exhibits, nor the song Bradford Boy, nor anything else in your report made me think, 'You know, I really must go to Bradford one of these days'.
Trying to be positive about poor white Brits and their Third World colonisers living among the ruins of a once great city is like putting lipstick on a pig.
I can't help thinking we've all gone mad, yet some are still trying to put a positive gloss on the fact that we live in a ****hole with people who often hate us. You really should have taken the guide's advice and gone to Haworth.
I don’t know if I am trying to be positive or just trying to broaden the perspective beyond extreme examples online. Also, I have been to Haworth before and it is a beautiful museum but totally disconnected from the realities of global capitalism.
So you are only interested in photographing the realities of global capitalism? There are no other subjects out there worth photographing?
Do you feel positive or negative towards global capitalism? If negative, why do you bend over backwards to find good things to say about its effects on our cities and populations? Your photos scream 'ugly' yet your pen says, 'fascinating and vibrant'.
We inhabit a world turned upside down, mainly due to the Soviet-style indoctrination British schoolchildren have been subjected to starting in the 1960's when the 'March through the Institutions' started, and getting ever more unmoored from reality.
Lots of interesting things out there, but I think this is an important topic.
I feel ambivalent towards capitalism. I think we probably have to start from a position of optimism to make a positive difference. A spiral of negativity helps no one. I highly recommend David Goodhart's recent post which navigates a path through the contradictions: https://davidgoodhart.substack.com/p/do-majorities-have-rights
On your recommendation I read David Goodhart's essay and I thought it very good. I have been following him for several years so I was already familiar with his general stance.
The piece struck me as being a very long plea for damage limitation i.e now that we have foolishly invited in so many people from often incompatible cultures there are several dozen policies we ought to introduce that MIGHT attenuate some of the negative consequences to manageable levels. This will be hard and often expensive but the alternative is a balkanized Britain with various ethnic groups competing for money from the public coffers, leading to resentment over the pet projects of other groups. To avoid this balkanisation we will have to, among other things, persuade Muslims that they are more British than Muslim or Pakistani and they will need to come to terms with the fact that Christianity is the bedrock of our morals and our civilisation. Good luck with that.
I live in Leicester where white Brits are now down to about 30% of the population. The truth is, like most people, I would prefer to live among my own kind but that is no longer an option for me. You may think that 'my own kind' could include other ethnic groups and I agree. I have lived and worked abroad for most of my life and have friends from various countries. But I can tell you that my Indian neighbours have knocked bricks out of our shared garden wall and said they didn't, smashed my greenhouse window and said they didn't, said they attended my mother's funeral when they didn't, talk loudly and without end on their mobile phones in their back garden, which drains my gardening of any pleasure. White people can also be horrible but such bare-faced lying is something new to me. I suspect they want me out so that their friends can move in next door. They, like everyone else, want to be surrounded by their own kind, even though I've only ever been kind and welcoming to them when they moved in two years ago.
My sister suggested I should move out but where am I supposed to go? I, like many other Brits, have to get used to the fact that we can't live around people like ourselves and instead just hope that the number of Third Worlders in our area doesn't keep rising, and that the Hindus and Muslims stop fighting, and that Muslims stop raping white schoolgirls, and that our progressive masters finally decide that part of their remit is to protect the natives, no matter how unfashionable and low status they are.
In short, I really like David Goodhart but I like Rupert Lowe even more. While David Goodhart seems a very clever and decent bloke, I think his influence on British life approaches zero, something he would probably admit, while Rupert Lowe has a real chance of changing things in the direction I and many other people want. Lowering the numbers rathering dreaming up complicated schemes that might just make things work better is now my priority.
Quite how the Goodhart essay related to your views on global capitalism or to your photos, I can't say.